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<!--Generated by Squarespace Site Server v5.11.81 (http://www.squarespace.com/) on Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:45:06 GMT--><rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:rss="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:admin="http://webns.net/mvcb/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:cc="http://web.resource.org/cc/"><rss:channel rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/"><rss:title>My family in World War 2</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/</rss:link><rss:description></rss:description><dc:language>en-GB</dc:language><dc:date>2012-02-15T18:45:06Z</dc:date><admin:generatorAgent rdf:resource="http://www.squarespace.com/">Squarespace Site Server v5.11.81 (http://www.squarespace.com/)</admin:generatorAgent><rss:items><rdf:Seq><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/9/7/remembering-the-blitz.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/4/4/dads-wartime-album-page-one.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/3/17/a-gruesome-discovery-horrifying-heirlooms.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/9/1/family-history-starting-research.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/8/28/mum-and-dad-remembered-at-eden-camp-yorkshire.html"/><rdf:li rdf:resource="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2007/12/22/christmas-at-the-front-north-africa-1943.html"/></rdf:Seq></rss:items></rss:channel><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/9/7/remembering-the-blitz.html"><rss:title>Remembering The Blitz</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/9/7/remembering-the-blitz.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2010-09-07T14:11:16Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 7th of September is the day that we commemorate the day that the German Luftwaffe switched from military to civilian targets in it's bombing offensive. This - it could be said - was tacit admission of their loss of the Battle of Britain and the start of The Blitz. Today marks the 70th anniversary of The Blitz.</p>
<p>Here are a couple of photos of my mother as my commemoration of this important chapter in World War 2. My mother was a member of the ATS and was assigned to early radar detection and the prediction of enemy aircraft movement. She passed German aircraft positions to the gun sites - also 'manned' by women of the ATS.</p>
<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4315077497_1c8a028db0.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1283869556615" alt="" /></span></span><em>A</em><em>bove: Mum - top row center - and some of her fellow ATS aniti-aircraft site comrades.</em></p>
<p>Mum - Connie - was based in South Shields and at Crystal Palace during the raids and it's interesting to think that during this phase of the war just how heavily involved female members of our armed forces were in the actual defence of the country - The Blitz being to all intense and purposes a front line battle.</p>
<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><a href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4327642344_b14b7cf397_b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/4327642344_b14b7cf397.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1283869617928" alt="" /></a></span></span><em>Above: Mum and some of her comrades - ATS veterans - posing in front of a British 3.5 inch anti-aircraft gun during a regimental re-union in 2002.</em></p>
<p>&gt; The BBC - <em><strong><a class="offsite-link-inline" title="Link to the BBC News" href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11209078" target="_blank">Service at St Paul's to remember the Blitz 70 years on</a></strong></em></p>
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<p>Women were barred from serving in battle, but due to shortages of men,  ATS members, as well as members of the other women's voluntary services,  took over many support tasks, such as radar operators, forming part of the crews of <span class="mw-redirect">anti-aircraft guns</span> and military police. However, these roles were not without risk, and there were, according to the Imperial War Museum, 717 casualties during WW2. [<em><a class="offsite-link-inline" title="Link to the WIkipedia entry for teh ATS" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auxiliary_Territorial_Service" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></em>]</p>
</blockquote>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/4/4/dads-wartime-album-page-one.html"><rss:title>Dad's wartime album - Page One</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/4/4/dads-wartime-album-page-one.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2010-04-04T16:37:50Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introduction: I am going through a lot of unsorted family photos trying to get them into some sort of proper order, so I thought this would be a good opportunity to start filling out my 'Family History' section. I am scanning my father's photos page by page from one of his albums and trying to put back into place some of the missing photos (we have so many loose photographs).</p>
<p>My father - John Beat - served in stores and supply for 14 BSD (Base Supply depot) of the RASC (Royal Army Service Corps) as part of the 8th Army in North Africa from 1941-45.</p>
<p><strong>PAGE 1 - 'TAKEN IN BOMBAY 9th AUGUST 1940'</strong></p>
<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><a href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4484722794_e6293b6ccb_b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4484722794_e6293b6ccb_m.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1270399850592" alt="John Beat, 14 BSD, RASC, 1940" /></a> <a href="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4484741844_bc9150e841_b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4484741844_bc9150e841_m.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1270399996762" alt="" /></a></span></span></p>
<p>On the left is my father and on the right his best friend Fred. I am unsure why they started in Bombay, when they ended up in Egypt, but once I have my father's service record I hope to clarify this.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/3/17/a-gruesome-discovery-horrifying-heirlooms.html"><rss:title>A gruesome discovery - horrifying heirlooms</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2010/3/17/a-gruesome-discovery-horrifying-heirlooms.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2010-03-17T10:11:42Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/1861026192_855967b839_o.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/1861026192_2aee3ae6f3.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1268822766516" alt="" /></a></span></span></p>
<p>I made a rather unsettling discovery last night regarding some war time photographs we have in our possession. My father - who served with the British 8th Army in North Africa - brought home some photos that were 'liberated' from their German owner (as my dad was not a front line soldier, but in supplies, I guess that he traded some goodies for them).</p>
<p>My father displayed his 'trophies' in one of his albums, and they were of some novelty interest as they showed some German soldiers during what - we presumed - was the early war Blitzkrieg in, judging by the architecture, Poland. Obviously the German owner was subsequently transferred to the Afrika Corps and then was either captured or worse and the photos confiscated.</p>
<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/1861023010_2aa68306e6_o.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2020/1861023010_4c5a307515.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1268823339211" alt="" /></a></span></span></p>
<p>However, this weekend my mother - during a fit of Spring cleaning - found an additional three photos in the series that had been left out of my dad's album. Initially they seemed of little interest, being faint and not showing any of the German soldiers that were in the other photos, hence their exclusion from the album.</p>
<p>But on examining them I found a title written in pencil on the back of one of them - it said 'Stryj' or 'Stryi' So, interested to see if this would finally unearth the location of the scenes in the photos I quickly Googled the word and was rewarded by an immediate result - sadly I was not prepared for what I found...</p>
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<p><em><strong>"The Germans occupied Stryy on July 2, 1941, and hundreds of Jews were  immediately killed.  In November 1941, 1,200 Jews were shot in the  Holobotow forest.  Several depotations to extermination camps took place  beginning in September, 1942.  Between June and August of 1943 the  Stryy ghetto and labor camps near the town were liquidated.  When the  Soviet army occupied Stryy in August, 1944 there were only a few Jewish  survivors.  No Jewish community was re-established." <a class="offsite-link-inline" href="http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/stryy/" target="_blank">http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/stryy/</a></strong></em></p>
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<p>To be honest I was a little shocked! Up until now these photos had been no more than novel memorabilia, but the true history behind the scenes placed a far more gruesome and horrifying significance on them...</p>
<p><span class="full-image-block ssNonEditable"><span><a href="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4439716619_0dfe036805_o.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4439716619_c27f3239fa.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1268823407837" alt="" /></a></span></span><em><strong>Above:</strong> One of the excluded photos that recently came to light - this shows some of the homes in the town of Stryi in flames as the Nazis carry out operations against the defenseless Jewish community.</em></p>
<p>Ironically, it is in two of the photos that were excluded from my father's album that one can get some sense of the horror that unfolded in the town of Stryi as they show the destruction and burning of some of the homes there. I am sure my father was completely unaware of the significance of the photos and left the remaining three out of his album simply because he thought they were the least interesting.</p>
<p>I now feel very uncomfortable about these photos and am not entirely sure what to do with them. They are now, of course, more important in a historical sense and I am tempted to hang on to them so I can pass them down to my daughters so they have a sense of the Holocaust. But in another way I don't want to have them, knowing now the sadistic motives behind their taking and am looking into perhaps donating them to a Jewish historical archive.</p>
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<p><em><strong><a class="offsite-link-inline" title="Link to my Flickr album" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beaty/sets/72157623637439746/" target="_blank">Link to all seven photos in this series on my Flickr album</a></strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/9/1/family-history-starting-research.html"><rss:title>Family history - starting research</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/9/1/family-history-starting-research.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-09-01T11:08:57Z</dc:date><dc:subject></dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was about time I really started a serious effort to research my Mum and Dad's wartime experiences. I had this project in mind for some time, but other things kept getting in the way. So this little post is more of a 'to do' list for me about how to start
researching a relatives wartime history. I wanted to list some of the
things I needed to know to get the ball rolling, and manage the jobs I
have to complete at each stage.</p><p><em><strong>1. Service records application - what I need first</strong></em><br>To begin my project it would be ideal if I could get hold of my parents military service records, but in order to do this there are some details I need about them in order to apply for these records.</p><p>To recieve the service records I must first of all prove <em>who I am</em>, and also provide as much information about my Mum and Dad as I can to successfully retrieve the required information about their military service. I do this by filling out the <em><strong>Certificate of Kinship</strong></em>. ** <em>It is worth knowing that you have to either be the service person themselves, next of kin or an interested party with the consent of the service person to be able to get hold of these records.</em> **<br></p><p>Next I need to fill in the <em><strong>SAR (Subject Access Request)</strong></em> form, this gives the record body (Navy, Army, Air Force, etc) all the information they require to do the search, and you also need to be specific about what sort of information you want - like <em>medical records while serving of HMS 'X'</em>, or whatever.</p><p><span class="full-image-block"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html"><img  src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2817532830_e306d47eb4_o.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1220270479733"></a></span></span></p><p>To fill in the SAR I will need specific details about my parents - like name, rank and service number. I will also need to know what unit, regiment or formation they belonged to. This will require that I, in the first case, simply ask my Mum for her details, but my Dad's details will have to be gathered from his <em><strong>Army Pay Book</strong></em> (which currently resides at a local war museum).</p><p><em><strong>&gt; So - 'To Do' number 1:-</strong></em></p><ol><li><em>Phone my Mum and ask her about her service details</em></li>
<li><em>Contact the local museum and request the return of my father's Army Pay Book</em></li>
</ol><p><em><strong>Next post: In my next post in this series I will collate all the information, show you where to get the appropriate forms and go through the form filling process... </strong></em></p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/8/28/mum-and-dad-remembered-at-eden-camp-yorkshire.html"><rss:title>Mum and Dad remembered at Eden Camp, Yorkshire</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2008/8/28/mum-and-dad-remembered-at-eden-camp-yorkshire.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2008-08-28T10:09:21Z</dc:date><dc:subject>Family photos</dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently visited a local war museum - <em>see: <a href="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/visits/2008/8/27/eden-camp-ww2-them-museum-yorkshire.html#entry2189803">Eden Camp museum</a></em> - and was very proud to find my mother and fathers photos being displayed. Eden Camp museum maintains an excellent repository for veteran's photographs, and family members enjoy browsing the many hundreds of pictures looking for their particular loved ones.</p><p><span class="full-image-block"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beaty/2804927461/"><img  src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2804927461_16f3ae6f2f.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1219919411096"></a></span></span></p><p><em><strong>Above: </strong>The display boards with my mum and dad's photos - highlighted in red. Mum is part of the 'Unsung Heroes and Heroines' display, while dad can be found in the 'North Africa' section.</em></p><p>It's really nice to see my parent's photos surrounded with other people that either in the same service or maybe they may have even known. It was also very touching that many families brought their children along and would point out to them 'grandad' or 'grandma'.</p><p><span class="full-image-block"><span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beaty/2804948315/"><img  src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/2804948315_b438ef8b99.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1219920350704"></a></span></span></p><p><em><strong>Above:</strong> Close-up of mum and dad - surrounded by 'old pals'!</em><br></p><p>While dad passed away a number of years ago, mum was happy to hear that her photo is still displayed at Eden Camp. And while in her 80s mum still shows an interest in her days in the army, as this week she meet some other fellow women veterans for a small reunion dinner.</p>]]></content:encoded></rss:item><rss:item rdf:about="http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2007/12/22/christmas-at-the-front-north-africa-1943.html"><rss:title>Christmas 'at the front' - North Africa, 1943</rss:title><rss:link>http://www.milgeek.co.uk/familyhistoryww2/2007/12/22/christmas-at-the-front-north-africa-1943.html</rss:link><dc:creator>Milgeek</dc:creator><dc:date>2007-12-22T08:43:27Z</dc:date><dc:subject>My Dad, John Beat</dc:subject><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seemed appropriate that I start of this new section of my site, documenting my family's part in World War Two, with a Christmas entry. At this time of year it would be nice to remember all those serving in our Armed Forces in far away and dangerous places, so here's a bit of a festive memory from my Dad's photo album.</p>     <p><span class="full-image-float-right"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beaty/2128630824/in/set-72157602907890163" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2201/2128630824_829c3489c1_m.jpg" alt="2128630824_829c3489c1_m.jpg" /></a></span>My father served with the Royal Army Service Corps (what we would now know as logistics) as part of the 8th Army in North Africa. The role of his unit was to keep the units at the front line supplied with food and other supplies by managing the mountains of stores and the trucks that transported them.</p>     <p><em><strong>Right:</strong> Dad recorded the menu served to the members of his unit, Christmas 1943. It seems a pretty good one, and certainly not what the troops at the front were probably eating. Click on the picture to see a larger version.&nbsp;</em></p>     <p>Despite this being a 'second line' roll, military historians will appreciate that it was logistics and the flow of supplies that in the end played a vital part in victory in North Africa.</p>     <p><span class="full-image-float-none"><img alt="2128630926_56f112891e.jpg" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2128630926_56f112891e.jpg" /></span> <br />   <em><strong>Above:</strong> The men - and dogs! - of the 14 Base Supply Depot, Royal Army Service Corp, 1943. My father is on the second row, sixth from the left.</em></p>     <p>I am not entirely sure about the location of this Christmas meal, though from 1942 my father and his unit seem to have been stationed in or near Alexandra, and maybe at a petrol depot at <span class="topic-ref">Mersa Matruh - but I cannot confirm this.</span></p>     <p><span class="full-image-float-left"><img alt="2128630996_316702a3bd_m.jpg" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2027/2128630996_316702a3bd_m.jpg" /></span>14 BSD and the sort of work they did are - I believe - mentioned in chapter 11 of a book called, appropriately, 'Petrol Company' by A. L. Kidson. An electronic version of this chapter - Back to the &lsquo;Blue&rsquo; - is available online at the <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" href="http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Petr-c11.html">New Zealand Electronic Text Centre</a>, and it gives an account of the fighting around Mersa Matruh and the part played my 14 BSD.</p>     <p><em><strong>Left:</strong> Photo my father included of the venue of the unit's Christmas meal. This looks more like a building in a larger city - like Alexandria - than in Mersa Matru, which was just a small harbour town.</em></p>     <p>&nbsp;This particular Christmas celebration must have been quite a significant one for the troops of the 8th Army, for while the war still raged on the Axis forces in North Africa surrendered on May 13, 1943. This victory, along with that of our Soviet allies at Stalingrad in February 1943, marked a turning of the tide against Germany and it's allies. From here on in, Germany was on the defensive.</p>     <p align="center" style="text-align: center;"><u><em><strong><span class="sizeGreater20">MENU</span></strong></em></u></p>     <p align="center" style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>Soup 'Minestrone'<br />   Roast Turkey<br />   Roast Pork - Apple Sauce<br />   Roast Potatoes<br />   Assorted Vegetables<br />   Christmas Pudding - Rum Sauce<br />   Mince Pies - Oranges - Nuts - Sweets<br />   Tea - Coffee<br />   Beer &amp; Cigarettes</strong></em><br />   </p>   <p>Looking at the menu, I can't help feeling how lucky my Dad probably was - although, by this time, he and his comrades had earned it. But it would be interesting to compare this rather luxurious war time menu with that being enjoyed at the home front - what with the strict rationing (I will ask my mum about this) - much less what our Soviet ally would have had to make do with!</p>   <p><em><strong>Useful links:-</strong></em></p>   <p>&gt; <a href="http://www.crum-jones.org/bob/ChristmasMenu/" target="_blank" class="offsite-link-inline">'Christmas 1943: A Meal Interrupted' - menu aboard the U.S.A.T. Evangaline, 1943</a><br /> &gt; <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/stories/02/a6442102.shtml" target="_blank" class="offsite-link-inline">BBC 'WW2 People's War' - Christmas in Italy 1943 by Peter G Whiting</a><br /> &gt; <a href="http://17thdivision.tripod.com/id40.html" target="_blank" class="offsite-link-inline">Russian Rations of The Great Patriotic War By Knackerstaff</a><br /> </p> <p>&gt; <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" href="http://www.wartimememories.co.uk/allied/rasc.html">The Wartime Memories Project - The Royal Army Service Corps</a><br />   &gt; <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" href="http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/corps/RASC.htm">The Royal Army Service Corp entry on Regiments.org</a><br />   &gt; <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" href="http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Petr-c11.html">Back to the 'Blue' - account mentioning the 14 BSD at the New Zealand Electronic Text Centre</a><br />   </p>&gt; <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/beaty/sets/72157602907890163/" target="_blank" class="offsite-link-inline">My family 'World War Two' album on Flickr.com</a><br />]]></content:encoded></rss:item></rdf:RDF>
